Neil Perry

To start, I want to express that I don’t believe Neil Perry (Robert Sean Leonard) is the main character, and I would like to stress that Neil’s character always remains static – meaning he does not undergo a change in his character at any time during the movie. Just because he died at the end does not mean that he changed.

I believe his life was an act – to his father, to Keating, even to himself, but when he wasn’t acting, he thought he had nothing to contribute – he was just as lost as Todd was when Todd first came to Welton. Neil couldn’t deal with the idea that to give up acting was to quit playing the roles that he lived everyday, and so he killed himself because he “realized that he had not lived” up to that point. I can’t think of any justification for calling Neil a martyr when the only thing he stood for was an act – an illusion – in itself. He just took on a different role to fit the circumstance. He never was upfront and honest about his passions to anyone. He even lied to Keating about his father giving him permission to act because he knew that Keating
would disapprove if he knew Neil’s father wouldn’t allow it. He says (in one of the extra scenes), “Think about it, most people, if they’re lucky, get to lead half an exciting life, right? If I get the parts I could live dozens of great lives.” I think that could be interpreted to mean that Neil wanted to be someone else – a person who could express his passions when the time was appropriate.


Symbolism:

Neil seems to symbolize his kneeling down before everyone – such as his father (who takes away all control Neil tries to have – such as the editor of the newspaper) and the school. Perry seems to be symbolic for “perish” and death, foreshadowing Neil’s suicide later in the movie. I think that’s why Todd and Neil got along so well. (On the first day of Keating’s class, Keating states that they are all going to die. Neil looks incredibly disturbed while considering this.) Neil could control Todd, and that was the only thing in his life he felt he had control over. Also, in a way, I think Neil saw himself in Todd, because Neil acted towards his father the way Todd acted towards everyone. By trying to help Todd, he thought maybe he could help himself. Neil claims, “the meek might inherit the earth, but they don’t make it into Harvard,” and he’s right – he’s meek, and he never makes it into Harvard.


Neil’s Searching:

Neil seems thrilled at the idea that he may be able to contribute a verse. He prompts Cameron to tear out J. Evans Pritchard’s introduction to poetry. He is the one to call Keating “Captain,” and is the first to ask what the Dead Poets Society was. He is also the one to organize the first meeting. Neil also tells Todd that he must participate in the club. Todd tells Neil that he can make his own decisions about the DPS, but Neil tells him “no” and grabs Todd’s poetry and they again form a Congo circle signaling chaos. Each are Neil’s attempts to lead – to gain control over his own life.


Neil’s Poems

These are the poems that Neil recites at the first Dead Poet’s Society meeting. These lines and his Madman Story not only explain Neil’s philosophy but foreshadow what is about to come – his destruction.

“I went to the woods because I wanted to live deliberately. I wanted to live deep and suck out all the marrow of life. To put to rout all that was not life, and not when I had come to die, discover that I had not lived.” – from Walden

“Come, my friends, ‘T is not too late to seek a newer world.
For my purpose holds To sail beyond the sunset, and tho’ We are not now that strength which in old days Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are; One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.” – from Ulysses

“It was a dark and rainy night. And this old lady who had a passion for jigsaw puzzles
sat by herself in her house at her table to complete a new jigsaw puzzle. As she pieced
the puzzle together, she realized to her astonishment that the image that was formed was
her very own room, and the figure in the center of the puzzle, as she completed it, was
herself. And with trembling hands she placed the last four pieces and stared in horror at
the face of the demented madman at the window. The last thing that this old lady ever
heard was the sound of breaking glass.”


The Madman and the Puzzle

The puzzle symbolizes life, the madman symbolizes passion, and the death of the woman is caused by letting her passion overcome her. This story explains Neil’s existence and his suicide.

In the end, Neil realized that it was his own life and he was in the center of it. Since his dad had control over him and he was too afraid to stand up to him, before the madman could break in the window and overtake him, he let the madman in as a last attempt at controlling his own life. His passion was acting in his puzzle of life.

As he put the last pieces of his puzzle together, he contributed his verse (Puck’s soliloquy in a Midsummer Night’s Dream). The last pieces were father’s ruling over him and with no more pieces left, he left the madman in the window before it was broken (meaning he killed himself before his passion killed him.) He felt he couldn’t live according to his father’s wishes, and the only way out was to kill himself. As Knox Oberstreet stated, “Carpe Diem, even if it kills me.”

Neil’s Last Four Pieces

  1. The scene with Neil and his father at Henley Hall.
  2. Mr. Perry’s comments for Keating to stay away from his son after the play.
  3. Mr. Perry’s speech to Neil about how he will not tolerate Neil’s passion for acting and that Neil will be transferring to military school.
  4. Neil’s putting on his Puck costume and opening the window to let the madman inside, which led to his suicide.


Midsummer Night’s Dream

When Neil learns about the play, he is filled with his passions. He claims that this is the first time in his life that he knows what he wants to do, even if his father disapproves. When Todd mentions this, he asks, “Can’t I just enjoy the idea for a while?” This is the beginning of his loss of control to his passions.

Neil plays the part of Puck in a Midsummer Night’s Dream. In the play, Puck (also called Robin Goodfellow) is a mischievous servant of the King of the Fairies, Oberon, who likes to play pranks on others such as changing the head of Bottom into an ass. Also, he is ordered by Oberon to anoint Demetrius with a special love potion so that he will wake up and fall in love with the first person he sees – which is supposed to be Helena – but Puck confuses Lysander with Demetrius and anoints him instead. Lysander then awakes, sees Helena, and falls in love with her. This is devastating to Hermia, who was supposed to marry Lysander the next day. Oberon tries to correct things by anointing Demetrius, who also first sees Helena after awaking, and falls in love with her. Finally, Puck is able to correct things by anointing Lysander once more, and positioning him so that he will awaken to love Hermia again.

As the role of Puck, Neil is able to express what he could not when he wasn’t acting. The Puck epilogue is said directly to his father, in hopes that his father will forgive him. He cannot say anything later when his father tells him what he expects Neil to do because at that moment he is no longer acting. Neil so desperately wants to have a verse to contribute, but he lacks the words, and can only say them while acting.

“If we shadows have offended,
Think but this, and all is mended,
That you have but slumber’d here
While these visions did appear.
And this weak and idle theme,
No more yielding but a dream,
Gentles, do not reprehend;
if you pardon, we will mend;
And, as I am an honest Puck
If we have unearned luck
Now to ‘scape the serpent’s tongue
We will make amends ere long;
So, goodnight unto you all.
Give me your hands, if we be friends,
And Robin shall restore amends.”


Suicide

Finally, in his room, he realizes that the last four pieces of the puzzle of his life have been put into place, and that his only option in order to gain some control of his life is to take his own life. It was just as Puck said in his soliloquy, Neil was his father’s dream. When his father woke up, his dream was gone.


Neil, His Father, and the Suicide

Neil’s relationship with his father is a case of misunderstanding and lack of communication. Mr. Perry wanted what was best for his son, which led to extremely high expectations. Neil wanted to find out who he was and what he wanted to do. Neil was unable to discuss his opinions and options with his father, and Mr. Perry was unwilling to look at Neil’s outlook on life, as it did not appear as Neil had a concrete idea of what he wanted to do. This cyclical pattern led Neil to conclude that suicide was the only way to gain control of his life and stand up to his father.

Neil only considered suicide after the major confrontation with him over the play. In the vast majority of suicide cases, suicide is an act that is contemplated for quite some time. Usually there are warning signs that accompany those thoughts. In this case, however, there is no evidence that Neil thought about suicide up until that night. It appears to be a spontaneous decision made on the basis of the hopelessness he felt that night. Maybe it was an act to break free from his father’s control, but in trying to gain that control over his life, he sacrificed everything to escape.

Mr. Perry was at traditionalist, which unfortunately meant he had a difficult time expressing affectionate emotions. He also had a large number of expectations because like any parent, he ultimately wanted the best for his son, a 16-17 year old with a bright future ahead of him. Unfortunately, Neil never really saw or understood that his father only wanted what was best for Neil. He only saw the tyrant-like authority figure who constantly demanded that Neil achieve greatness in academia and who obeyed him unquestioningly.

Neil, however, did question that role – to himself, to others, even to Keating. Unfortunately, he never truly was able to convey that to his father. The only time he was able to stand up to his father was in the role of Puck during the play, when he asked for forgiveness with his last soliloquy, an act which deliberately disobeyed and thus enraged his father. He had many opportunities to do so before then, but he never seized the opportunity to reestablish a connection. The father and son were like strangers, each with a specific perception of the other, but neither really knew who the other was. This perpetuated the cycle of misunderstandings between the two and eventually played a major role in Neil’s suicide.

In Mr. Perry’s perspective, Neil was a model child who was focused on getting into a good college. He then learns from another parent that Neil was going to be in the play. This was the first he had heard of this, as Neil had lied to everyone about his father’s approval. Mr. Perry then told Neil that couldn’t be involved, an order Neil deliberately disobeyed by performing in the opening show the following night. When Mr. Perry saw Neil as Puck, he became furious and probably overreacted a bit by concluding that it must be the school (or more specifically, Mr Keating – the new teacher) that was the cause of this and that Neil should transfer schools to regain his focus.

Neil, on the other hand, wanted to know who he was. He was always obedient to his father’s wishes, but he wanted to know more about himself. Acting was something he could do for himself – something that he enjoyed and allowed him to explore what he was able to accomplish. On the other hand, it was also a means of escaping his current reality by being someone else for a few hours. Keating suggested Neil talk to his father about this passion, but Neil second guessed his father’s actions by arguing that his father would never understand. He never gave his father the benefit of the doubt and tried to explain. Keating even went so far as to tell Neil that even if his father didn’t see things his way, he’d soon be out of school and could do what he wished then. Neil wouldn’t listen to this advice, and later when Keating asked if Neil had spoken to his father, Neil said he did consent. (I think Keating knew he was lying but he chose not to pursue the matter because at that point, Neil had to take responsibility for his own actions.)

Yes, Mr. Perry was hard on Neil, but that was probably out of concern. He was paying a lot of money to attend a great school to prepare him for an ivy league school, and Neil, out of nowhere, decides he doesn’t want to go to college. He wants to act. Mr. Perry believed that this was a fleeting dream, and that if Neil followed this path, he would be throwing away a wonderful opportunity for a pursuit that would last a couple of years. After all, most people don’t really have a grasp on their future until at least their junior or senior year of college. If his acting career failed, which in all likelihood, it would have, Neil would have no skills to fall back on.

Also, Neil never really stood up to his father. There were times he tried, like when Mr. Perry told Neil he should drop some extracurricular activities, but he did so in the presence of others, which created a hostile environment between the two. It would have been interesting if Neil and his father would have actually sat down and chatted about what Neil wanted and what they could do to compromise. Even at the very end, when the two confronted each other right before Neil committed suicide, Neil still could not face his father. Mr. Perry specifically asked Neil what he wanted, and Neil couldn’t answer him. I think Mr. Perry really expected Neil to give him an answer, and I think if Neil would have, his father may have been more understanding.

In a way, Neil resembles how Todd was in the beginning of the movie. Todd couldn’t speak to anyone of authority without sounding insecure. In one of the extra scenes, Todd tried to ask for rowing instead of soccer, but could barely speak. He was given soccer instead. Also, in class, whenever he was asked a question, he couldn’t answer. He wanted to say something – especially to recite the poem he spent so much time writing, but he never could. He even ended up ripping up his poem.


Martyrdom

So, then, is Neil a martyr? Well it depends on your own interpretation of the word. I choose to think he isn’t, but I suppose given the following definitions from Webster, Neil could be:

“a person who voluntarily suffers death as the penalty of witnessing to and refusing to renounce a religion”

Well, Neil did voluntarily undergo death because he refused to renounce his religion – which was romanticism.

“a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle”

Ok, he did sacrifice his life for the sake of his own selfish romantic tendencies.

“victim”

Now the only thing Neil fell victim to was his own passions. He was not a victim of his father because his father did not make him nor want him to kill himself. Neil crucified himself. If Puck’s costume is supposed to be symbolic of the crown of thorns – which I’m not certain it is – then it was Neil that put it on his own head. It was Neil that pulled the trigger and killed himself. No one else made him do it. I personally don’t view him as a martyr because his cause was a completely selfish one. There was no reason for him to do so. A martyr sacrifices his life for a specific cause, and it is usually beneficial to that movement, but Neil was not a part of any kind of great cause. He was a coward and took the easy way out of a difficult situation.

I interpret Puck’s costume to be symbolic of Neil’s romanticism. It all started with the idea of going into the woods to start the Dead Poets Society. Here, the woods represents romanticism – Neil entered the woods, and never came out. His entire identity was transformed into the role of Puck – who lived in the woods and did what he pleased – taking the romantic way of life. The final scene where Neil puts the Puck costume on is symbolic of his continuing presence in romanticism. He never once took a step back to realize that he was the one who was sacrificing himself. If he had been willing to stand up for himself – his true identity -and say his verse, than this probably wouldn’t have happened, but the only time he could attempt to say his verse was in the role of Puck. Puck became his identity, so in the end, he had to become Puck in order to take the final step and kill himself, again making one last attempt to try to say his verse.

One last comment from a response I received:

“Neil is not a martyr! His religion was self centered. His
death was absolutely needless! A true saint accepts the Christ like example. What was completely lacking was humility, true suffering (waiting until he graduates from HS and than doing what he is called to do), and
patience. He took the easy way out (sad way actually). Instead of enduring a bit of momentary suffering (not acting) he gave up his life and forfeited his real destiny. To take on the suffering of not acting, to accept this with all humility and patience would have made him a great artist, and a saint. He put on the Crown of Thorns, but without the Agony in the Garden, the Scourging, Carrying his Cross, and the bitter passion.”


Who is Responsible for the Suicide?

In the end, both the realists and the romantics blame the other for Neil’s suicide. The romantics say it was Neil’s father. Even Todd says this when he first confronts his romanticism in the snow. The realists say it was Keating, and in the end, force Keating to leave. Neither side wants to believe that through the act of suicide, Neil is taking control of his own life decisions and therefore must assume the responsibility.

Suicide is a personal choice, and only Neil could decide whether or not to commit the act. He did what he thought was best at that moment without considering what the next morning or the next week would bring. He didn’t look at other more rational options, such as openly discussing the situation with his father or even waiting until he was a couple years older as Keating suggested. There is a point in everyone’s life where they feel that no one understand them, and no matter what they say, it doesn’t change the situation. However, by Neil killing himself, Mr. Perry never had the opportunity to understand his son’s desires and passions. All he had were memories and should have beens and could have beens. There were no definites. At least if Neil would have spoken his own verse, maybe Mr. Perry could have understood just a little better what his son was feeling, and maybe things could have ended on a happier note.

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17 Responses to “Neil Perry”

  1. Chris says:

    Well I agree on a couple points. I didn’t think Neil was the main character either. I felt as though most of the movie takes place from Todd’s point of view. He’s shown at the beginning of the movie as shy and unassertive, and gradually becomes more willing to speak his mind even if his voice shakes.
    The final shot of the movie shows his face with a firm, resolute expression as he (literally) stands up for what he believes in.
    I also agree Neil didn’t show any signs of suicidal ideation before that night, and was wondering how realistic that is.
    However, it was his father who started that confrontation with Neil in the presence of others at the beginning of the movie, regarding extracurricular activities. Neil had to say something, and I don’t know when else he could have done it. His father should’ve pulled him outside in the first place to speak to him privately.
    There was misunderstanding and lack of communication between Neil and his father, but I think his due largely to his father being so unapproachable and making it difficult for Neil to talk to him. I think that was the underlying cause of alot of the problem.

  2. chloe says:

    ‘this is such a great movie.

  3. Emma says:

    I feel compelled to respond to the comment quoted in this section(Martyrdom)

    “Neil is not a martyr! His religion was self centered. His
    death was absolutely needless!”
    I believe that Neil was a martyr. His religion was not self centered, and though his death may have been needless, it wasn’t without true reasoning in his heart. I believe that his “religion” ie Romanticism, was a true cause to fight for – the only thing that his parents, school (with the exception of Mr Keating) and society expected of him was to be a doctor, not for the fact that it saved lives, but for the prestige the job carried. Neil was flying the flag for imagination and inspiration in a world taken over by realism and pessimism, a world unable to see past a person’s salary.

    “A true saint accepts the Christ like example. What was completely lacking was humility, true suffering (waiting until he graduates from HS and than doing what he is called to do)”
    As for being a saint, you have to consider the fact that he wasn’t one. He was a teenager. And for him to submit to carrying on in the education his father picked out for him – ten years in military school – wouldn’t be humility and true suffering in the name of his “religion”, it would have been surrender. Surely it is better to live for what you believe in – no matter how short that life may be – than to just go with the flow. Yes, that may have been “true suffering”, but the fact still remains that Neil probably wasn’t thinking of his martyrdom when he killed himself. He probably thought that it was either suicide or military school, because there was no way that he could have found the courage to stand up to his father. It was one extreme or the other – another Romantic idea, I think.

    “He took the easy way out.”
    Please. The easy way would have been submission – it always is.

    “Instead of enduring a bit of momentary suffering (not acting) he gave up his life and forfeited his real destiny.”
    Because, obviously, acting cannot be a true destiny for someone. It is only a true form of art, of expression. It is only a way by which individuals can travel to distant places and different times, learn how to empathise with people and gain a view of humanity that is unfettered by the restraints of a normal life. Momentary suffering is not the issue here – the fact remains that ACTING is a way of life, it is a calling, and not everyone can do it. For the first time in his life, Neil had found his vocation and was (literally) acting upon it – he was carving his own future and he was in full control. Why would he relinquish this because it is what’s expected? That would have been senseless.

    “To take on the suffering of not acting, to accept this with all humility and patience would have made him a great artist, and a saint.”
    He didn’t want to be an great artist and a saint. He wanted to be himself, something which he would never have acheived if he had gone through military school – that would have broken him. It seems that people have the impression that Neil was a Jesus-like character of endurance and strength, but he was only human.

    “He put on the Crown of Thorns, but without the Agony in the Garden, the Scourging, Carrying his Cross, and the bitter passion.”
    Jesus went through the Agony in the Garden, the Scourging, carrying His Cross, and the bitter passion for A BELIEF NOT SHARED BY THE SOCIETY IN WHICH HE LIVED. Of course he didn’t kill himself – he was the Son of God, he had Divine Guidance, and finally, it isn’t necessarily something which everybody believes in. Maybe Neil didn’t.

    Maybe we should entertain the idea that Neil, for all his virtues, was just an ordinary teenager seeking nothing except to “suck all the marrow out of life.”

    Apologies for ranting :)

  4. Kally says:

    Thank you for writing this. I’ve been able to see some very different views on Neil, and this has helped find me arguments, and evidence for my analytical essay.

  5. Rebecca says:

    Although I believe Todd is the character who had the most dramatic change from the shy, scared and anti-social boy to a man that could stand up for himself self and think for himself I believe Neil’s character had the same dramatic changes. At the beginning of the story Neil had an argument with his father about focusing on his future as a doctor. After learning it’s okay to think for your self and that life is about love and passion he chose to follow his passion and leave the rules behind him. His suicide was a strong message that truly showed the audience he had changed and he would never go back to who he was before.

  6. Zapped says:

    In response to Chris’ quiry about suicidal ideation, it can be true that people who contemplate suicide do not do so until that final instant. Much of the time, people who do commit suicide will only reach out to others moments or minutes before they actually strike that last and final blow, ending their life. If at all. Hence, the response many individuals have when they learn that a person’s death is the result of a suicidal act “They never seemed the type”, “It can’t be true. They would never do such a thing”.

    For those individuals who do not understand, please allow me to explain, as I myself had contemplated ending my life, and have on at least two occassions nearly done so. Thankfully for me however, friends came to the aid and lifted me from the darkness of this world. Yet, that does not explain much. So, the darkness and worthless feelings pent up deep inside a person’s psyche develops them and slowly twists them into believing all is hopeless. That no matter what they do, they can never satisfy anything or fill their role in life. As Keating puts it, “That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse. The powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse… What will your verse be?” For those in a similar situation, the darkness drowns your verse, snuffs your candle and limits your ability to see what is there even in front of your eyes.

    I believe that all things throughout “THE DEAD POETS’ SOCIETY” is a symbol of both the great and bad points of life. Yes, the end of the movie is depressing in that a character is dead by their own hands, a person is blamed who should not be blamed, but if this were true reality, then all should have been blamed. Neil’s friends and fellow Dead Poet members knew the preasures faced by Neil and did nothing to aid him in seeing the joys had to offer, Mr. Perry for failing to honestly see beyond the mask Neil showed the entire world, Mr. Nolan for believing in an out dated form of education even if it were 1960′s or 70′s, or earlier, Mr. Keating for pushing a philosophy that is good and true, but without much explanation on how to comprehend the meaning
    of Carpe diam (Seize the Day).

    Although, Mr. Keating does attempt to do so when addressing Charlie after the stunt he pulled after posting the letter to the editor from the Dead Poets. He completely undoes it, by giving a sarcastic remark: “A call from God… Now, if it had been collect, that would have been dearing”.

    I guess in the end, Mr. Keating is that teacher who has to be a student’s friend, their pal, more than their advisor. However, had each person stepped forward and taken responsibility for their part in Neil taking his life, then and only then could the story have truly closed on an honest note of exploration in teen suicide and suicide in general.

    Suicide is not always an honest answer, but it is an answer many individuals consider. It is up to the friends, family, and others to help a person suffering from such an act of depression to see that the person gets help and is well.

  7. Erik says:

    thanks for writing my english paper for me :-)

  8. Hannah says:

    I watched this movie last night and I agree with some of the points but disagree on others. I feel that Neil starting DPS and making crazy decisions was him starting to be himself and finding joy in life. WHen he went back to his father, it felt like an all time low because he had come down from such a high. He is my favorite character in any book OR movie.

  9. WG says:

    Neil didn’t want to live a life of quiet desperation.

  10. Julia says:

    In regard’s to Neil’s suicide:
    If you watch each scene where death is mentioned, Neil’s face has a peculiar look on it and may be an indication that it has crossed his mind before he actually does commit suicide.
    However, I do agree with ‘zapped’ with how it usually does come to friends and family as a surprise probably because most people act in order to not be suspected for suicidal thoughts, just as Neil did.

  11. DanT says:

    I admire your look inside the character of Neil. You see a lot more insecurities in his character than I ever believed he had. Thank you for that.
    I also don’t think he was the main character, Dead Poets Society wasn’t really about one person or character, it was more about each person discovering and exploring themselves.
    Neil’s relationship with his father was not a good one and communication was the main reason. Neil simply couldn’t stand up to his father. Furthermore, his father gave him no opportunity to stand up for himself; he only ever saw his own future for Neil, he never even wondered what Neil might want. We know Neil’s family isn’t exactly rich, and so there is a lot of pressure on him. Still, Mr. Perry was suffocating his son, and crushing every dream the boy ever had. He never even considered allowing Neil to make some of his own choices, there was never any “maybe we’ll see”, there was only his way, and Neil was expected to obey him, unquestionably.
    We see Neil always trying to be at the center of things, most likely as an attempt at freedom from the “real world” and his father. And when he finds his passion in the world of acting, it seems as though Neil wants this more than anything, it makes him truly happy. His father simply does not care. His father is so completely dismissive in his rejection of Neil’s own thoughts or wishes, it’s as if he doesn’t even hear him.
    For Neil, to have the thing which means most to him be taken away and so brutally trampled, it’s just too much for him. I would never encourage or support suicide, but I can understand why Neil feels he has no other choice. It’s quite simply because he has no choice in the matter, or any matter. His father doesn’t treat him like a son, he treats him like a means to an end. Neil’s only path is the one chosen for him, and he is expected to go along with it without any regards to his own desires or passions. Neil’s final decision is to make one defiant move against his father’s own set-in-stone version of Neil’s life.
    Personally, I think the scene of Neil’s death is among the most haunting I’ve ever seen in a film, and a truly great performance. But to call it Keating’s fault it wrong. “Suicide”, with “sui” meaning “self” and “cide” meaning “kill”, put them together, and it means “to kill oneself”. If it was Keating’s fault, that would have been “murder”. Neil chose a romantic death over a life of suffocating conformity, Keating did not tell him that death is better than being unhappy, he only tried to open him up to the world his father closed to him. Above all Keating wanted Neil to live, to the fullest extent he could.

  12. John says:

    In regard to Neil’s suicide I am reminded of another great romantic, Tom Sawyer, who took such pleasure in Aunt Polly’s conversation in which she regrets not having treated Tom better when she mistakenly thinks he has died. Given Neil’s age and his penchant for drama, I don’t think it’s too much of stretch to say that Neil’s final role was that of the martyr. I can remember the desire to hurt myself in order to punish my parents. As a high school English teacher (and former adolescent) I can attest to the impulsivity and lack of restraint that characterize the adolescent mind. It may be the romantic in me but I tend to point the finger of blame in Mr. Perry’s direction if for no other reason than that he should have been more aware of and sensitive to his son’s inner life. But that may be asking too much of a realist…

  13. ratgirl says:

    I agree that this is essentially Todd’s film, as he is the only dynamic character.

    I cannot, however, agree that Neil’s father was thinking of Neil’s well-being in any way at all. He never says so– mostly he says he’s sacrificing and it all means so much to Neil’s mother (which seems a blatant lie). He saw his son as a means of fulfilling his OWN desires.

    Neil, though, seemed unwilling to go out on his OWN once he graduated high school. His father could not have forced him to go to med school, or even college. But to pursue acting, Neil would have had to have been paying his own bills, etc. So I have to agree that Neil was a coward, who could not face a self-reliant life!

    And it is NOT the case that Neil should have gone to college (with his father paying the bills, selecting all his classes, etc.– another 4 years of hell) before he went into acting. Age matters a LOT in the theatre. You can go to college at any point in your life.

  14. David says:

    If Neil was not the main character, it sure took a lot of words to describe him and his role.

    The idea of the ‘main character’ as the one who undergoes change, is one we find in English class. It is retroactive in that it describes most main characters but that doesn’t mean that it describes all of them (Did Puck change?). Neil overcame so many challenges but most happened in the beginning of the film ie. as he decides to start the DPS. The change came at the end as he was ‘changed back’ to the supplicating teenager. This was a negative change that he couldn’t handle. Neil’s excesses were balanced out only by the excesses of his first 16 years as the ‘dutiful son’.

    As WG put it, “Neil didn’t want to live a life of quiet desperation.” He had tasted life and couldn’t see spending 10 more years, including 8 of college, back in his old ways. He couldn’t go back, and his father was forcing him to go back. I think most people are looking at Neil through an adult’s eyes. He’s a kid. In that situation, with Neil and his father’s background, it would be all too difficult to calmly explain how he just wants to pursue acting to find himself and that he is not his father. Just look at adults in your life. Very few of them have that aplomb. His mother could also have stepped in and lobbied for Neil. She could have explained that Neil would not think his father weak if he contemplated Neil’s feelings once in a while. Yeah, but that didn’t happen, as it doesn’t always happen in real life. Her supplication was just more evidence to just how controlling his father was.

    I think the suicide was only a way to add a dramatic finish. In Neil’s life, he could have stuck it out for another year of high school, and then went his own way. But that wouldn’t have been as powerful I suppose.

    Emma hit the nail on the head.

    Great post and excellent summary and critique. It’s just my opinion, but I hope I added something to the discussion. You hit a lot of points, but my space is running out.

    What makes Neil great for me is his commitment to his friends. His positive commitment. He leads them in ways his father never would’ve been able to. My favorite line of his is when Todd says he should just butt out, but Neil smiles and says, “No”. Cynicism be damned!

  15. AlbertE=MC2 says:

    I enjoyed the movie, but if my father treated me like that I’d probably show him the relativity of pain with the back of my hand.

  16. Megan says:

    This is one fabulous movie. I’m seriously in love with Neil Perry. Not knowing how to stand up against his father, I could understand why Neil did commit suicide. Not saying that it was the right choice, but I would have been entirely irked at my father if he wanted to live out HIS dream through me. I am an individual, as was Neil, and there was nothing sinful or wrong about what he was doing, it was just the fact that it wasn’t what his father wanted. He wanted to be Neil’s puppet master.

  17. Selene says:

    I agree with you in most parts but the poem Puck’s Speech was written to signify the end of the play and to say that it was all a dream you or someone else had. The moment Neil shoots himself, his father wakes up from a dream that he had. So I think Neil was trying to say when he read Puck’s Speech that the curtins of Neil’s life were closing and that his whole existence was nothing but a dream.

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